Surely the most basic right to appeal against a conviction is enshrined in common law and is a last ditch safeguard against hanging an innocent man.

Stefan Kiszko and many other innocent people were convicted by a jury and vilified at the time.

Steve Wright Ipswich was convicted by a jury under massive media hype that his dna was found on all the victims. Fair enough but he admitted that he was a sex customer of all five girls. That didnt prove he killed them and no evidence was produced that linked him to the sites where the bodies were deposited and posed for the police.
In fact the prosecution suggested he had an accomplice because they were so unsure of his guilt.

Steve Wright was not allowed into the appeal court.. A judgment had already been
prepared by the appeal judges and was read out. What kind of appeal was that? His new
evidence never saw the light of day. He is held incommunicado from his legal adviser.
He was not even allowed to speak to him prior to the appeal. It could be you. think of the
Birmingham 6 and Stefan Kiszko and Judith Ward etc. They were equally vilified until the truth came out.

I will ask the same question which you conviently ignored last night.

How many copies of your 'yorkshire ripper' book that you self published have you sold ?.

What?
That radio 2 DJ?
What did he do????


joke

can you tell me where I can get my hands on a copy?

justice has become a cash cow industry for lawyers
kids if u want to be rich and succeseful
become a lawyer
you will live like a king

Please do not encourage him jimmy You will also save yourself £12.

£12! Blimey.

why do you want to change the subject of Steve Wright's right to appeal?
If you knew that the police had framed up Stefan Kiszko for example, you would probably remain the smug man you are. I, on the other hand, would try to help him.

I have experience of police bungling and I am painfully aware ot the fact that they never admit that they got it wrong, even when the evidence is overwhelming.
It takes all kinds of people to make a world. The caring and the uncaring.

For you are not interested in his appeal noel, you are looking for info for your new book.

As for steve wrights appeal, he dropped his last appeal in Feb 2009.

On another thread you stated that the fantasy tescos worker who made himself a suspect give the police Steve's number plate.

When the truth is, the Police found the reg number from CCTV, he was also stopped while cruising the area and told the officer that he did not realise he was in a red light district,considering he had picking up pros from that area for sometime he was lying. Before moving to my present home in 2007 we used to live by Christchurch Park in Ipswich, in the weeks up to the capture of steve, we had people like yourself stop us in the town to ask us questions about the red light district/murders, you and these people were not concerned about the effect that these murders had on us folk, you were only interested in how many sales you lot could make. I normally do not get upset with people but in your case I will make an exception. Do me a favour stick your notes for your new book where the sun does not shine.

Wright didnt drop his appeal. He was denied permission to appeal.

Wright was arrested in a dawn raid the morning after the tesco suspect was arrested. That man was about to be charged until he put the finger on sex case Wright who was known as the mondeo man by the victims who confided in their drug pusher pal at all times and were only too happy to jump into his car immediately after their sex session when Wright returned them to their pitch where he sometimes waited and at least once followed them. Wright was already a suspect and his car was known to the police but he was not a hot suspect until the cops learnt that he had been the last man but one to meet the last two victims. That info came from the real killer who picked them up after he dropped them back, drugged them and then killed them in the same place Wright had taken them.
Remember the Clio on that back road parked a few hundred yards from the mondeo??? The witness in the bus noticed both cars out there in that bleak spot.
Needless to say the tesco worker was delighted that his plan succeeded and there was no way he was going to murder another prostitute to focus attention on the conviction.
This guy is not a loonie but a clever manipulating and evil killer and is walking the streets of Ipswich today while the cops have solved the case. period.

If he really was an evil killer, then he would have murdered again by now.

Its just your own conspiracy theory.

"there was no way he was going to murder another prostitute to focus attention on the conviction.
This guy is not a loonie but a clever manipulating and evil killer and is walking the streets of Ipswich today"

What was his motive then?

Barrister Mark Fenhalls on Tom Stephens: - the real Suffolk Strangler: -

"The police asked detailed questions about his alleged links to the five women," said Mr Fenhalls. "Topics covered included last sightings of him on CCTV in the (Ipswich) red-light area, his knowledge of the deposition sites, his movements in the week before his arrest and his interviews with journalists." Mr Fenhalls said Mr Stephens declined to answer questions. "From police inquiries it has not been possible to establish an independent alibi for Tom Stephens for any of the nights on which it is alleged the five women disappeared," said Mr Fenhalls. #####//itn.co.uk/news/effaf277e679c5b574415057d864f981.html

On 24 Feb 2009, at Steve Wright's last appeal hearing at the RCJ, I was his chosen legal representative, but the HM 'Judges' barred me from speaking - and HM Long Lartin Prison failed to bring Mr Wright to his Appeal Hearing. Ben Ando of the BBC and David Bowden from Sky News were in court and witnessed this.

Motive.
Wright was a sex case and his only crime if you consider it a crime was to pay those girls for a sex session. Lots of other girls stated that he always paid and was never violent or threatening.
Sexual feelings sent him prowling for sex most nights. Its not normal but it was consentual and it happens all over the world.

The other suspect, the tesco worker was crazy about the beautiful young Tania who wore his shoes that fateful night and owed him some money.
She was much younger and didnt love him but needed his drugs.
Who knows how he strangled her or what lovers row they had that night after Wright asked her to get out of his car. But she died that night and became a missing person for the next two weeks. Of course the tesco boyfriend was the number one suspect from the start.
Then he devised a plan to kill another prostitute and dump both in a river together. the last man seen with the second victim would become the suspect for both. Guess who was the last man?

you make a valid observation Ivamessage. There was no blood on his sleeve. It was
stated to be microscopic traces of blood and Wright admitted physical contact with all five
victims and sexual with four, which he lied about at first but then admitted under
interrogation. Who could blame him for denying that he knew all five murdered
prostitutes when he was questioned by the police? Especially if he didnt kill them.
When the prosecution stated in court that there was blood found on his jacket that
sounded very incriminating but it was only minute traces not visible to the eye and at
least one victim was menstruating while another had a nosebleed at some stage.
The fibres from the hair of the first victim, young Tania were matched to a Ford car mat.
He told them that she was in his car and her bag would be on the mat or floor. Anyway
how many Ford cars are there in Britain? That fibre didnt prove Wright killed her. It
corroborated his story that she was in his car. If he was so meticulous to destroy all the
victims clothing how come he didnt burn his own if he was such a devious killer?

You aren't going to convince anyone because we don't know you from Adam. I could make a post claiming the Baby P parents were innocent - maybe there was a huge conspiracy against them to get a conviction also??

Lets See shall we.

The DNA evidence pointed in his direction
The Witness evidence pointed in his direction
The Various bits of gathered forensic evidence pointed in his direction
His own account of where he was at the times was vague and not backed up by anything solid.

What more do you want?

My personal belief is that the Murders where not in anyway Sexually related he actually believe he was doing these women a favour by getting them out of a bad lifestyle.

you are not thinking it through. Wright was set up.
The other guy was waiting in his car for Wright to drop back his chosen victim after Wright's sex romp. Then she got out of Wright's car and into his car and he organised a drug fix for her and presumably took the money Wright just gave her. They all felt safe in his company and needed their fixes and they thought he was protecting them.

He didnt just want to kill any hooker. He wanted to kill the one that Wright just dropped off so that Wright had a trail that he couldnt get out of.

Then he drove her to where Wright had just been earlier in order to incriminate Wright and despatched her by strangulation (details later). Then he dumped the body nearby and posed it so that the police knew it was the same killer.
He was nearly caught the last time out and drove into a roadblock but got away.

Then he was arrested and hey presto he told the cops that he witnessed a mondeo car reg number zyx picking up the last two victims and the next morning Wright was arrested and he couldnt get out of that trap.

The other suspect, the tesco worker was crazy about the beautiful young Tania who wore his shoes that fateful night and owed him some money.
She was much younger and didnt love him but needed his drugs.
Who knows how he strangled her or what lovers row they had that night after Wright asked her to get out of his car. But she died that night and became a missing person for the next two weeks. Of course the tesco boyfriend was the number one suspect from the start.
Then he devised a plan to kill another prostitute and dump both in a river together. the last man seen with the second victim would become the suspect for both. Guess who was the last man?


Noel By your own words above you state that the 1st suspect was the killer of tania nicolls and that he murdered another one after her, and dumped them both TOGETHER,So can you explain this information below then:


On 12 December, Suffolk police announced that the bodies of two more women had been found. On 14 December, the police confirmed one of the bodies as 24-year-old Paula Clennell.Clennell had disappeared on 10 December and was last seen in Ipswich.According to Suffolk Police, Clennell died from "compression of the throat". On 15 December, the police confirmed that the other body was that of 29-year-old Annette Nicholls, who disappeared on 5 December. The bodies of Clennell and Nicholls were found in Nacton within 200yds of each other together.


Just for your records Noel, Tania Nicolls was found in water at Copdock Mills and no other body was found nearby.


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The right to appeal a conviction in the UK is based on NEW EVIDENCE OR SIMILAR GROUNDS being placed before a judge, who will decide whether the grounds are sufficient. Judges generally err on the generous side, but the idea is to stop ''malicious appealers'' who would endlessly clog up the courts in the hope of a fortuitous result.

After all, it is often said that our prisons are full of 'innocent' men and women.

There were not sufficient grounds for an appeal in this case. And I, for one am quite glad about that, it tends to show that the jury got it right first time round.

And I am not trying to hawk some tawdry book on the back of other's misery, so I have no axe to grind.

Please note: It was the POLICE who CHOOSE Steve Wright’s ORIGINAL Solicitors - Paul Osler, of Osler’s Solicitors.

Steve Wright told me in a telephone call from Long Lartin Prison on Sunday 22 February 2009, that it was Osler Solicitor’s who advised him to say, “NO COMMENT” throughout the police interviews, which was the foundation for sealing his FATE: -

guardian.co.uk, Thursday 21 February 2008
Police interview Steve Wright
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Like a lamb to the slaughter!

Ahhhhhhhh the Web where every Convicted person was Set up

Where every terrorist Bombing is a Government Conspiracy

And IF a Celeb Farts the whole world knows about it in 30 Seconds.

If Steve Wright didn't like what his Lawyer was telling him all he had to do was speak out and get another one that's his and everyone else's right.

to answer drift. When the killer/minder/drug pusher/ex cop/pimp dumped the body of his murdered lover Tania together with the body of freshly murdered Gemma he thought they would be found next day but the river was in flood and washed them away due to heavy rain. They werent found immediately as he intended and he was sweating because his plan was falling apart. Media speculation became intense as the days went by.
Gemma was found first and that caused an immediate madia frenzy because she had been missing since mid November. A week later Tania was found in the water further downstream. He had hoped they would be found immediately and Wright was the last man bar him to meet Gemma and he would be done for it if found the next day.
With his plan falling apart the pimp became a bit unhinged. He grabbed Anneli after Wright had his sex session with her and killed her and posed her body in a special way to link them. He could easily entice the hookers into his car because they all believed he was a guardian angel watching over their safety with the knowledge of the cops.
Similarly he raised the stakes for the cops by targetting Ms Nicols and Paula Clennell just after Wright dropped them off after his sex romp.

As for letters to Wright in prison.

His father wrote to him but did he get the letters? I wrote also and more than a year later I discovered that he never got my mail.
His legal advisor Patrick Cullinane was refused permission repeatedly to visit him in prison and never got to meet him despite having a written authority from Wright.

The man is held incommunicado. His father apparently has no wish to visit him for whatever reason but he is adamant that Steve is innocent of those murders.

Okay, so one fact is missing here: Why no more murders?

As JaceyLacey said, why no more killings after the capture and conviction of Steve Wright?

You think he became a choir boy and gave it all up? People, murderers included are animals of habit, serial killers DO NOT give it up until they are forced to, the urge is to great.

And as for the OP's comment that we aren't reading it through.... You have made up your mind for whichever reason it is and you are sticking to it, the fact that reality and reason say otherwise matters little to him it would seem.

“If Steve Wright didn't like what his Lawyer was telling him all he had to do was speak out and get another one that's his and everyone else's right.”

Psycho, you’re living in Cloud-cuckoo-land. You failed to observe the contents of my first and second post: -

"On 24 Feb 2009, at Steve Wright's last appeal hearing at the RCJ, I was his chosen legal representative, but the HM 'Judges' barred me from speaking - and HM Long Lartin Prison failed to bring Mr Wright to his Appeal Hearing. Ben Ando of the BBC and David Bowden from Sky News were in court and witnessed this."

Psycho: Stefan Kiszko, Anthony Steel and the following victims were ALL represented by HM lawyers, but not by Patrick Cullinane. Remember, they also tried to speak out through their HM lawyers, but the people on the outside didn’t know this until they were released: - Then they told us themselves that their lawyers were involved in the conspiracy: -

guardian.co.uk - Series: Justice on trial - Tuesday 5 May 2009
'It's like being buried alive'
Since the 1980s and 90s a flow of miscarriage of justice cases has undermined public confidence in the criminal justice system. John Kamara, Paddy Hill and Sean Hodgson describe their experiences of wrongful conviction
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Psycho, come and live in the real world!

I notice Noel that you have failed to reply to my post on your other thread, in which I dispute your claim that Steve wright never received any letters from his father. How do you explain the letter he sent his father where he stated:


Number: TT6221 Name: Wright.. Wing: H213

Dear Dad

This is a reply to your letter